Kmalmor the Great and Mighty Dark Enchantress

Katniss.  Kira.  Karou.  The Hunger Games, Partials, and Daughter of Smoke and Bone.  What do they have in common?

For one thing, they’re some of the strongest heroines I’ve ever encountered in YA fantasy.  Katniss spearheaded a rebellion as the girl on fire.  Kira researched a virus that has killed off most of humanity and then set out to find the cure, almost on her own.  Karou… eh, she just fell in love, but she did it with style.

Then look at the names.  They all begin with K.

For some reason, names beginning with K give a sense of the same independence and strength that pervades the personality of each character I mentioned.  Or perhaps the characters lend their strength and independence to the name, and it’s just a coincidence.

Whichever is true, it seems to be popular.  Strong heroines have K names.  Maybe because the letter is spiky.

Morgoth.  Moriarty.  Morgarath.  The Silmarillion, Sherlock Holmes, and Ranger’s Apprentice.  What do they have in common?

I think it’s obvious by now, their names.  I’ll get to that.

They’re all evil.  Evil evil evil.  With the possible exception of Moriarty (who seems to have been made Holmes’s greatest enemy by popular opinion, though in the real books he only appeared twice, according to Wikipedia), all of them are the chief antagonist in their stories.  Morgoth is the embodiment of evil in Middle Earth.  Morgarath is the picture of an ambitious baron.  Moriarty killed Holmes.  (Sorry if that’s a spoiler, but you’ve probably had enough time to read those books for yourself.  I’ve had time, though I haven’t read them.)  They are evil.

And we come to the names.  It’s obvious, isn’t it?  The cliche for evil is to name them beginning with “Mor”.  I posted a short story last week that made jokes galore about this.

There’s a substantial reason for Mor- being popular.  In Latin, the word for death is mors.  (I knew it would come in handy.)  We have words like morgue, mortuary, and mortician all because of the Latin word mors.  Beginning your villain’s name with Mor- is like naming him Deathman or the Death King or just Death.  It’s cool, it’s evil, and it’s a dirty white color.

The same sort of thing holds true for names beginning with Mal-.  There are many villains named that way.  One of the villains of Ranger’s Apprentice was named Malkallam.  The antagonist from the Beyonders trilogy is named Maldor.  The Latin word mali means evil.  Thus, we have maleficent, malcontent, and the mall.  Naming your villain with Mal- is like naming him Evilman or Mr. Evil or Evil Incarnate.

I wonder if anyone has ever thought of naming a villain Mormal.  Death-evil.  Malmor.  Evil Death.

The funny thing is that most people don’t know those Latin roots.  Mal- means nothing to them.  It’s a prefix in some cases, but they don’t know what it means– they know what the entire word means, but not the prefix itself.  Mor- is just something you say when your cup is empty: “More coffee.”  Nevertheless, the ideas of evil and death are implied, even though people don’t see the connection.

I’m not writing this just to expose a cliche.  I don’t want you to name your greatest villain Bubbly Fluff Man.  I’m just saying it because it’s interesting.  K names give strong, independent, slightly spiky characters.  Mor and Mal give death and evil.

Of course, any name can mean anything.  There is no reason to give your main character a K name just because it fits the formula.  Sadie Kane is a good example (but only partially, since her last name begins with K).  I don’t usually like S names.  Simon, Sam, Sylvester– they’ve never been punchy names for me as I read.  I always get slightly uncomplimentary mental pictures.  But Sadie is strong, independent, and spiky, and yet her name begins with S.  The character took the name and bent it to her personality, not the other way around.

Have you ever reflected on your own name?  I love my name.  It’s perfect for me.  It fits.  Why?  I didn’t choose it.  My parents weren’t looking into the future to figure out my personality and find a name that would best fit that.  They just picked a name out of a hat (more or less) and gave it to me, and it became mine over time.  There might be a Liam somewhere else with a completely different personality, but it doesn’t affect me, because I’ve made my name my own.  That works with your characters, too.  I never liked P names that much and felt I had a deficiency there, so I named some characters with P names.  Now I have too many P names, and I love most of those characters.  I still don’t like P names that much, but their names fit their personalities now that I’ve worked with them for so long.

So first of all, what do you think of K names and Mor- names and Mal- names?  Can you give me any examples of where K names are weak and Mor- and Mal- are on the good side?  Second of all, what do you think of finding names for new characters?  Do you spend lots of time figuring out what the best first letter would be?  Or do you just choose anything?

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325 thoughts on “Kmalmor the Great and Mighty Dark Enchantress

  1. I never really read anything with villains in it, so no, I haven’t noticed that. As for the Ks, I’m not sure. I don’t usually pay attention to that sort of thing, either.

    As for my characters, sometimes I think about their names for awhile. Most times I’ll just run through a list of names in my head and pick one that just…feels right, if you know what I mean. Very rarely do I actually go and research the name.

    1. You… have never read… a villain? And you tell me you don’t write romance!

      I do know what you mean, though sometimes “feeling right” entails beginning the name with K, Mor-, or Mal-.

      1. I DON’T write romance! Nor do I read it! But contemporary fiction doesn’t usually have villains. Just…antagonists. Who aren’t too villain-like.

  2. This is actually a very true post – although I protest, in defence of Karou: she was doing something rather more than falling in love, what with the whole teeth hunting business, the wishbone thing and Akiva’s crazy siblings at work. True the love formed a large part of it, but she had other priorities and didn’t devolve into less of a characters as a result.

    I’ve not met a weak K character as of yet, nor a good Mor- or Mal-. Or maybe I have and I just don’t remember them as much as I do the evil ones. I think the sound of it has a lot to do with it – “Mor” has a sort of echo to it, a big cavernous sound that brings scale and power to mind, and “Mal” is a sort of sickly squished noise that doesn’t exactly bring loveliness to mind.

    I, too, though am guilty of naming my characters phonetically: I like R names for my male characters for some reason, and I tend to go for sounds that suit the characters’ personalities; my gentler ones of both sexes often have longer names than the fiestier individuals. Never liked P names either, or B very often. I’m very fond of S, though. I had a Silas once – absolutely mad, somewhat traumatised, and I loved him to bits because he easily got one of the best developmental arcs of any character I had between the ages of 13-15 (which, believe me, at that age is a big deal).

    Then again, when we were young, who didn’t give nasty characters ugly names and “good” characters pleasant names? It just came automatically at the time. Well, it did for me. I try to balance it up a bit more now, but a name does need to fit a character before I call them by it. Sometimes I’ll give them an ironic name that doesn’t suit them for kicks and giggles, but not often, because it just jars so much in my head with what I expect the name to carry. For unimportant characters I just stick any old name on, though. Important ones require a little more attention, though. Because I’m picky.

    1. I knew you’d object to my treatment of Karou. But really, what does she do? She buys teeth, wishes to fly, and occasionally fights angels. She runs a lot, too. Falling in love was the only active verb I could think of that was complimentary.

      I like R names too, as well as F names. I kind of like B names, but it always sounds too much like Beren. For some odd reason.

      I agree. The novel I tried to write at age thirteen contained a strong female with a K name, which was more instinctive than tactical. Unfortunately, she turned out to be weak.

      1. Hmm. Maybe it’s because the first and second book of that series have smushed together that I object – she takes a much more active role as a resurrectionist and tries to guide the policy of the chimera survivors in the second book, although looking back she did have more of a back-seat role in book one. Hmm. Alright. Fair point.

        Eheh, don’t worry, most of my female characters went that way too. I like to try and blame the fact that I had very few ‘strong female’ guidelines to follow in those early years, despite my devouring everything fantasy. Not in the least because, even at that age, I had a Mary Sue phobia.

      2. I haven’t finished book two yet. Sorry.

        I never knew what a Mary Sue was until I learned from experience. I still didn’t know there was a name until I joined NaNoWriMo– even then, I had to look it up.

      3. Heh heh, experience of any sort comes better late than never!

        AND I THOUGHT OF A WEAK K-NAME FEMALE! She’s called Kira, from the Mindjack trilogy by some author whose name I have forgotten, and she is a Mary Sue. She does nothing but whine and be UberSuperSpecial by birth, and yet everyon adores her on sight and spends all their time trying to rescue / protect / kiss her. There’s one little kid that, for no reason at all, she develops a Katniss-Primrose attachment too, but she so utterly fails in her attempts to be useful that she only serves to highlight what a poorly-crafted, incompetent, and boring character she is.

      4. Wow. That is a weak K-name female. There goes my post, then.

        Not really. As I said before, you can try to compensate for weakness by giving them a strong handle, even though it never works.

      5. True. The attempt was . . . valiant, here, I’ll give it that. But Kira really does nothing to earn the instant admiration she gets from everyone, and she never puts that power to any use that would redeem her from Sue-hood.

      6. Likewise.

        I think it’s a wish-fulfilment thing. Publishers think ‘oh, a young adult audience will just love this wish fulfilment character, because they can pretend to be them!’

        But we don’t.

      7. Yeah, unless they die, which I realized today is the only reason we can ever like a perfect character. If they’re perfect, then they die, we have a better chance of liking them in the end. It evens things out. If you’ve ever read Pollyanna, or seen the movie, you’ll know that she’s a little girl with an annoyingly positive attitude– until she gets hit by a car and loses the use of her legs, which completely turns us around. It isn’t that we hated her and were glad when she got a splash of reality, but it’s thinking about how amazing the life could have been had she not had that accident.

        The same thing happens in Mr. Magorium’s Wonder Emporium, where this hilarious 273-year-old man decides it’s time to die and does. He has no faults, but we love him from start to finish because, well, it isn’t the sadness we see after the death, but the life we saw prior to it.

      8. Hmmm, I’m not so sure – the death of a ‘perfect’ character can be a pretty insufferable cliche. Horrible as it sounds, I’m often just happier to see the irritating wretch gone than anything else.

        Then again, it all depends on the presentation of the character, too. One CAN like a perfect character, if they are entertaining and engaging and not contrived or overwrought or too ostensibly annoying in their perfect-ness. Characters like those, yes, the death works. A more Mary Sue archetype . . . break out the confetti, I say.

      9. As I said in the “What I learned” part of the mini review of that John Grisham book (lots of “of”s in there), you can have a seemingly perfect character as long as they’re too far off for the readers to see their faults.

      10. That is true, but a character that far away would have a hard time expressing anything to the plot outside of helpful smoke signals.

  3. I’ve done research to name some characters, but I always find the names I come up with that have some latin root end up sounding really hokey. So I change them. Maybe I should keep them and see if the characters start to fit their names, or if the names start to fit their characters.

      1. Last time I saw that Liam got a hug… it didn’t go well for the person hugging.

      2. Liam threatened to drool on her hair. I don’t remember if she stopped after that or not.

      3. You could also ask Charley… I believe she was the unfortunate soul who attempted hugging the Head Phil.

      4. I didn’t say you were Liam. I was asking for his comment.

        But yes, it was. Although he doesn’t call everyone “Filthy Lesser Beings.”

      5. I was not ignoring you– I just had to answer every other comment on the face of the earth; and you were having so much fun snuggling up to my cardboard cutout, I figured you wanted some time to yourselves.

      6. You never got me to say it was. Your second attempt failed, and I was waiting to see what else you’d come up with.

      7. Do you remember the part in Leven Thumps where Geth the toothpick shoots out of an underground river through an icebank, shouting “Saved” ? That’s how I always feel.

      8. I do say “indeed” this often.

        And I’m not stealing it anymore, “Llliam,” (I thought that said Lilliam at first!) I’m just borrowing it.

  4. Hey, my name starts with a K! Too bad I probably wouldn’t make a very good heroine….

    “Mormal” sounds too much like the word “normal”, and Normal is an odd villain name. Malmor, on the other hand, sounds like a good villain name.

    So….does that mean coffee is evil? Or was it death? Ugh, I’m already getting the two mixed up… Not that it matters. I don’t like coffee.

    When I’m creating characters, I usually have a letter in mind for each character. It’s just like, “I think this character needs a name starting with T,” or whatever letter. There’s no pattern or anything, it’s usually just my first thought. Then I come up with the rest of the name.

    1. I do the same thing, coming up with the letters first. I seldom let the characters grow into their names.

      You will get nasty letters about that coffee comment, mark my words.

    2. Ha ha my name starts with “K,” too! 😉 But I think I’ll let my fictional heroines take care of the bad guys.

      1. My name starts with a K, too! But do I have to be a heroine? Can I be the supporting charrie who is really smart, reads minds, and knows more than the MC? 🙂

  5. I think the letter “K” (or a hard “C”) gives the impression of it being strong because of the hard “kuh” sound at the beginning. It sounds like you’re being punched or something. If Katniss had been named Lilac or something like that, she would’ve sounded softer and daintier. I don’t really think about the first letter. Normally a name just pops into my head.

    1. A hard C isn’t always interchangeable with a K. Consider, for instance, the name… Okay, well, I can’t think of them now, but when I was writing the post I considered adding that K’s within names have a similar effect. Not so with C’s. Consider, I don’t know, Lilak. It sounds a bit less dainty, though it looks horrible.

  6. A: As I was in the middle of reading this post I instantly thought about the Latin roots, too. Another derivative of Mors, Mortis is mortgage, no joke.
    B: I choose names on the random, sometimes (to let the character sport it however he or she wants), and sometimes I put way too much thought into my names, so that the name is obvious (for example I named my water spirit Serena). But when I choose names the thoughtful way I certainly take into account the Latin or Greek roots and meanings.
    C: I like to name character ironically, like naming a strong (only strong after some character development, mind you) protagonist Emily, a name I have always thought of as an insecure, or quiet character’s name.

    1. Very interesting, all. I tend to name characters two ways: seriously, by thinking long and hard about a “cool” name for them, or humorously, by naming them something extremely silly.

      1. My “i” used to be dotted with a heart… it morphed into a shape like a flower petal.
        Why are names ending in “ee” wimpy? Sadie Kane, anyone? Can you name more than one wimpy girl character with “ie”?

      2. Robyn: Effie is one, but I can’t think of any others because authors just don’t use many weak female characters. And it’s not the characters themselves that are wimpy, the names just ad a layer to their personality. Say, if Kira were named Sugar or something like that.

  7. I love names! Odd names! My most used letters (not on purpose, though, it’s weird) usually are B, A, and S and M. I have to make a conscious effort NOT to use those letters.

    I really enjoyed this post! M is usually villainous, but in my books, M is usually hero (though never for heroines). Megamind starts with M…not sure if that’s a good point though. Prince Kai out of Cinder (strong character). Or Ky out of Matched (not a strong character).

  8. One of my lead male characters is called Kai, to me it sounded short and tough. Just like the character. I named another character Keira, which is probably irrelevant since she goes by her last name, Gregoreva.

    The naming of characters is incredibly important. Especially when you set them in particular cultures. I personally like Japanese and Russian names. They can sound tough and beautiful at the same time. Some of my characters are called things like Kyo, Tora, Akulina and Satsuke.

    I had this one character whose name proved most difficult. Her personality was sorted, her future was planned out, but her name was an issue. At first she was called Lupita, it was far too feminine for her. Then she Lupe, then Lupa. I did finally decide to call her Nera (she later changes her name to Looper). A slightly feminized form of Nero, the reason being that she had control over fire.

    I do agree with the K thing though, it does sound spiky and almost dangerous 😀

    1. Russian names are amazing.

      Nero is related to fire because of the big thing about the Caesar, where Rome burned and he played the lyre? Sorry, for a moment I was thinking Nemo, which in Latin means “no one”.

      1. yeah, i chose to feminize Nera because of the fire thing. she literally burns her mother and city 😀

        I do have a character called Njema, which is a slightly Norse-ifyed version of Nema which is a feminized form of Nemo, heheh

  9. Also, there’s Kira from The Giver series, Kiki Strike from the eponymous books, and I’ve just realized how many of my characters have K names. (Or C names, hard Cs.)

      1. I think it translates as “bad blood”, if I remember correctly.

        Speaking of HP (AND LotR) and evil guys, you should check out my blog. *beams angelically*

      1. I think that can be bypassed with characters, though. People, no. But I think character names should have lots of meaning.

        *viciously pokes Liam* Did you see my GSA pooooooost?

      2. *dumps a bucket of water on Liam* There. Now you’re not on fire anymore.

        (Engie, next time be a little more subtle, okay?)

  10. Well, one of my villains is named Morgana. I knew “Mor” meant death, but I didn’t think about the “Mor” when I named her. I have used “Mor” -prefix for villains before, but I do not recommend sticking two such people in the same book. One of my villains became not-so-villainous over time and rewrites. Mortania and Mordelia. Mortania was good. I confused one of my sisters.
    I think we need to be careful how many people in a novel have similiar names, whether the name starts with the same letter or sounds the same. We do not want to confuse the readers.
    My current protagonist’s name starts with a K– but I don’t think he’d appreciate being called a heroine.
    As for naming a character… Drake was going to be Jake, Shamira’s name means “guardian and protector” (she a fairy godmother), and Keegan came naturally. Some names come without me having to find them, others I have to hunt for. Meaning will sometimes enter into it, but it’s finding a name that sounds right for that person. As I said, I didn’t think about “Mor” when I named Morgana. I’ve also been known to give some of my characters embarrassing given names. Drake’s name is Pyrrhus Drake Elliot. Blade… not going to tell you. It’s a spoiler. But on the subject of his name, I came up with his first name while I was playing Scrabble. 🙂
    I did name Drake’s parents with an accidental reference– Edward and Isabella. I changed Edward.

      1. I also make up some names. If you write fantasy, making up names is almost mandatory, I think. Find me a fantasy book where there was not at least one author-created name.

      2. There are a few, actually. A fantasy I just reviewed, The Familiars, has a character named Gilbert, though the main character’s name is Aldwyn (which is definitely made-up). Harry Potter… let me see… There’s got to be a common name in there somewhere… Oh, yeah, Harry! *sarcasm*

        I’ll change the HTML. It’s messing up the prettiness of my blog.

      3. I still don’t know how it doesn’t make sense. I want you to name a fantasy book without an author-made name in it.

      4. Ah, I see. I misunderstood. Actually, again, Harry Potter works pretty well. Last names were fabricated, as were those other species, but when are they not? You can’t always have John Smith petting his psychic cat.

      5. As for your question to me, Liam, no I don’t. xD And I’m glad it doesn’t look pretty. It wouldn’t work very well like that. You can’t have a PRETTY blog about evil geniuses, spoon heists, and the like.

      6. My blog isn’t about spoon heists! That was you! And pretty blogs can have anything they want. You have to admit, my blog is pretty in a rather dark fashion.

      7. Good point about the spoons. But still. I guess if you want to call it pretty, that’s your right. It being your blog, after all.

      8. ……Liam’s blog is pretty? I thought he was going for a masculine monochrome here. Liam, if you truly want your blog to be pretty, why not just put that Mrs. Sparkly award up?

      9. And Liam has a point about the spoons, Amanda. I started reading this blog for the posts… which are amazing.
        I like the monochrome.

      10. I know, Robyn. I know. xD That’s why I said he had a good point.

        And, yeah, Meredith? How did the blog suddenly become a girl? 😉

  11. Well, there’s Malcolm from Ranger’s Apprentice. He’s a healer, and though he used some rather frightening things to keep people from entering his forest and hurting his friends, he’s not bad.

    When naming my characters, I really don’t pay attention to first letter that much. Normally it’s a matter of sitting down, mapping out the character, and feeling around for a name that suits them. I tend to work a bit with syllables. Most of my characters’s first names are two syllables, the last name being only one. (Ex: Peplum Witz, Scarlette Quinn…..)

    I also tend to pick names that have a hard consonant sound in them. Like in the name Scarlette, the beginning part has that hard C sound. In Peplum, there’s sort of a bubbly pop to the PL part of it.

    1. “Bubbly pop”. I’ll remember that for when I need to give a profound reason for why I like the letter P.

      I don’t think Malcolm is much of an exception since his name is one reason people thought he was Malkallam. The two are very similar.

      1. You’re welcome in advance. Got to have something in your pocket in case of those dreadful name-haters. Of course, flamethrowers and bagels work well too.

      2. Didn’t Charley once hug you? She would’ve combusted if she had, unless you can turn your aura on and off like a lamp, then she would have been safe.

      1. It can to be applied to world dominion. If someone laughs because of you, they’re more likely to listen to you. If they’re more likely to listen to you, they’re more likely to follow you.

      2. No, it doesn’t. To reply to your other comment, why would you dominate the world by making people follow you? Coercion, tyranny, brutality! These are the things that build empires.

        I think the chief examiner has overtaken my fingers.

      3. World domination, not dominion. World domination (n.) = The state of ruling, unopposed, all the kingdoms of the world and/or universe, depending on how much world you have to work with.

        Thus, you don’t have friends, you don’t have followers– you rule.

      4. I’m sure it is.

        You’re still an ENTJ, like it or not.

        Oh, small side note: I finished my first draft and I have NO IDEA how I am managing to write this perfectly calm comment.

      5. I don’t know. Monopoly can get violent. And Monopoly can last hours! World domination can take much longer! Why do you want it, again?

    1. No, but he was a supposed villain. He was meant to seem like a villain at the beginning of the book, without any sort of character description. Thus the importance of his evil-sounding name. Malkallam was a villain, though Malcolm was not.

      1. Honestly, I couldn’t think of any others. And just as honestly, it was perfect just because of what we’ve mentioned: the name and reputation are the only things making it evil, much like Sauron. Thus, the name is much more powerful than in a regular villain whose maleficent acts we see in front of us.

      2. Just a question. If giving spoilers about “one of the biggest plot twists” in The Sorcerer in the North and/or The Siege of Macindaw is so terrible, how come it’s acceptable to let everyone know that Moriarty killed Sherlock?

  12. Also, as you have just said, Malcolm is a ‘good’ character whose name begins with the prefix Mal.

    1. Indeed he is. Mortimer is a common name for some good characters as well, so perhaps I should have put in a disclaimer: Mal- or Mor- do not automatically mean an evil character.

  13. In such a context, it would have been much better to use a different type of character altogether. For example, using the character Maleficent would have been far more intellectually appropriate due to the fact that such a character is very much either black or white. This would clearly not be as interesting or enjoyable to read about as a character like Malkallam but in the sense you were using it in, it would have been much more apposite.

    1. I think I’ve made it obvious that I’m simply focusing on the first impressions, not necessarily whether they were accurate or false. Malkallam has an evil first impression, however false it is. That first impression was given in some part through the name, which I was highlighting. To use an obviously horrible character who doesn’t even need a first impression would lessen the power of the name.

  14. You say ‘To use an obviously horrible character who doesn’t even need a first impression would lessen the power of the name’. You are, in fact, contradicting yourself. The reason that the character seems ‘obviously’ horrible [to you] is primarily due to two facts. Firstly, the character has a name that you associate with evil and secondly, that you are acquainted (in this case) with the character. The ‘power of the name’ still has the effect that you speak of only you do not notice it because, after the initial introduction, it is a subconscious impact.

    1. In Malkallam’s case, there are two things giving us his first impression: his name and his reputation. With other villains, say, Morgoth, we not only see his name, but we see him actively killing people and destroying the world. Yes, the impact is more subconscious in the second case, but his evilness isn’t known by word of mouth as with Malkallam. Malkallam has a name that strikes fear into the heart of his foes– Morgoth just strikes his foes and waits for the fear to catch up.

  15. I disagree, the impact is far more subconscious in first case: the case of his name. The impact of his reputation is something people would recognize as affecting them and would most likely also think about. They wouldn’t, on the other hand, think ‘He must be evil because his name begins with Mal!’ The name Malkallam is a brilliant one and certainly strikes fear but the impact is, as I said previously, subconscious.

      1. Yes, we are going in circles. That is mainly because neither of us are properly addressing the points raised by the other. Regarding the name being a cover name, that is certainly true and yes, I did say that previously. However I did not even mention that in my last comment. I was speaking of the effect of a person’s name and reputation on a character and whether or not that effect was subconscious. Your comment is akin to me having asked a question and you answered with a completely different, unrelated answer!

  16. Interesting. That’s not something I’ve ever really paid attention to before, though I can think of one other strong heroine: Katsa from Graceling by Kristin Cashore (I think. An okay book, not sure I’d recommend it or not).

    1. Actually, that was going to be one of my examples; but I only wanted three examples and Katniss, Kira, and (who was it? oh yeah…) Karou leapt to mind.

      I did enjoy Graceling a lot, though Fire was worse and I read something the author said about Bitterblue and refused to try it.

      1. There was a lot I liked about Graceling, and really the only thing that threw me off was the affair between Katsa and Po. The story was good, and with the exception of the affair, I liked all the characters. And that world the author built was fascinating. Did you notice that the names of all the countries fit where they were on the map? The one in the middle started with M (Middlunds, was it?) and the southern country started with an S, and so on.

        I had Fire home from the library once, but I never got around to it. May I ask what was so bad about it? And what was said about Bitterblue? Bitterblue was one of my favorite characters, so I was kinda interested in reading that one. Also I love saying her name. Don’t know why.

      2. As you said, the affair between Katsa and Po put me off. The same thing happened in Fire, but with different characters and more obviously. Furthermore, I read an article somewhere wherein the author said that she was originally planning to have Bitterblue be fifteen or something, but then she decided to make her have an affair and had to raise her age to eighteen. No, thanks.

      3. Yep, not reading either Fire or Bitterblue now.

        The Song of the Lioness books by Tamora Pierce were the same way. Good story, but the MC had affairs with three different men over the whole series. At least she actually got engaged to one in the end.

      4. I foolishly bought a gazillion 50 cent books at my library’s book sale, and though I’ve only read a few, I see why they made it to the book sale. There’s a chance I’ll end up donating most of them back.

        Fire World? Have I read Fire World? *Goes to look it up* Oh, it’s one of The Last Dragon Chronicles. I never got to that one. The last one I read was… *Goes to look that up* … Fire Star. I still think about those books occasionally, though they aren’t screaming at me like Fragments is. *Gives bookshelf a death glare* Maybe I’ll give them another shot. I liked David and Zanna much better than Katsa and Po.

      5. Didn’t you say that in a comment on some post, last weekish? Or did my brain go imagining things again? Maybe I read something wrong. Well, either way, clearly I am mistaken about this, so I’m sorry! I didn’t mean to put words in your mouth. I hear they can taste rather bad.

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